Orlando

Before I point out a few things, look at some positive things about the response to the mass murder in Orlando.

Now for the rest of it. I have gay friends getting hate mail for pointing out the bleeding obvious I’m about to say, so I’m using my straight privilege to say it too.

  • The killings are not about straight people. Or just ‘people’. Straight people who died, died because the killer was a virulent homophobe (and an abusive piece of shit.)
  • The killings are not about promoting your fucking shitty m/m epresses. Donate your profits, don’t make profits.
  • The killings are not about heteroromantic cisgender asexuals. You’re not LGBT. You weren’t the target. If people are hating on you now it might be because you’re being a self-centred shithead about this horror.
  • The killings are not about people with severe depression – yeah, thanks spouse for that one. Not only are most mass killers not suffering from depression of any kind, most are not by standard definitions even mentally ill. The mentally ill are much more likely to be murdered, than to kill anyone.
  • The killings are not about the killer being a registered Democrat, jesus fucking christ what is wrong with people?

Even if the murderer was a closeted/in denial homosexual, it was still his homophobia which led him to drive 120 miles specifically to this gay club, this gay safe place, in Pride Month. Even if it was his religion and his political allegiances which gave a gloss to his actions, he killed gay men and women because he hated gay men and women. Not just any old men and women—gay ones.

Stupidly lax gun laws let him kill more people than if he’d had a knife. But if he just wanted to kill because he owned a big scary gun, he could have shot up a Walmart. He chose—carefully, deliberately—a gay club.

Stop making it all about yourselves, straights. If your gay friends want to be with their other queer friends right now, try to understand. And give them all the hugs and love and understanding they want from you.

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Some things are so obvious, they shouldn’t need to be said

Like:

If you claim that when you kill yourself, all those bitches you hate so much will be sorry, don’t be surprised if sympathy for and belief in your actual suicidal state of mind are a tad lacking. Also, this is the tactic of a fourteen year old. It’s ridiculous in a teenager, positively sickening in a pampered thirty year old woman.

If you (a gay man) write an article about women in m/m and complain how those bitches be cray and how dare u objectify me, girl, don’t be surprised when the bitches and the men who love them need them to keep buying their books, rise up like a wave of vomit and splash all over you. At this point there can be no rational dialogue about the real and egregious excesses of certain (too many) segments of the m/m world, or its homophobia, or the denial of the extensive history of gay fiction. Give it up. You may as well try and get Donald Trump to stop hiding his bald spot.

Speaking of Trump, it is past argument that racism and bigotry win lots of votes in America, increasingly in Australia, and as always, in the UK and parts of Europe. If you are too stupid to see how the terrorists rely on that and the kneejerk numbnut reactions from idiots like Trump, then you are part of the problem, not the solution. I suggest you listen to Waleed Ali some more.

Every morning this week I have woken up, read the news, and decided I hate just about everyone on the planet. Which is rapidly warming and soon to become largely uninhabitable because “Fuck You, I Got Mine” is now the top selling song world wide. I believe in charity, empathy, kindness, and caring for the environment and those more vulnerable than myself. Apparently, I’m in a fast diminishing minority.

When every religion on the planet claims that caring for one another is a pretty good idea, why do so many religionists do the opposite? And why do I, an atheist, get why it is a good idea?

Oh yeah, because people suck. See the post title.

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It never pays to be nice to the really evil

So, here’s a thing. Before Xmas, I was ‘fortunate’ enough to be visited by a particularly noxious troll and harasser (he follows the gamergate handbook) called Kevin Weinberg (someone unknown to me at that time, but I have since been enlightened about him.) Weinberg was threatening and abusive towards me, and is one of the reasons comments are no longer enabled on this blog.

I wrote a post pointing out his nasty behaviour, as well as his support for STGRB owner Melissa Douthit, but shortly after posting, I learned that he is allegedly on the autistic spectrum. I thought – wrongly, as it turns out – that he was being manipulated, and more of a foolish victim than a villain. So I made the post private, and explained why – only to have yet another harassing tool claim I was talking about him (takes one to know one eh, Julio?)

But my humane motives proved to be mistaken. Weinberg is a dedicated abuser*, hooking up not only with STGRB, but the egregious Anne Rice and her campaign against reviewers, and also the entirely horrible and revolting Tina Engler of Ellora’s Cave infamy. Following the pending settlement of EC’s wrongheaded SLAPP suit against Dear Author, Weinberg – with Englers’s full encouragement and approval – has been harassing and abusing female authors using the #notchilled hashtag on Twitter to discuss the suit and the implications of the settlement. His attacks are foulmouthed and foul, sexist and extremely nasty. He makes fun of rape victims, and – in the move that made me reverse my decision to keep my post private – he mocks and abuses Jenny Trout for her mental illness. You can see Weinberg’s full panoply of nastiness if you use Twitter’s advanced search option and look for tweets with “#notchilled” from @kevinweinberg1.

This is the wonderful individual that Tina Engler has chosen to promote at her new ‘anti-bullying’ site (gosh, now where have I seen that tactic before? A bully setting up a site pretending to champion victims of what she is herself engaged in?) I think this tells you all you need to know about Ms Engler and her ethical compass.

So, no more pretending that poor poor Kevin can’t help himself. Plenty of autistic people conduct themselves with courtesy and kindness in real life and on-line, and don’t feel the need to spew misogyny and hate at other people’s behest. He’s a menace, and needs to be treated as such. Do not engage him, as he’s a fan of doxxing his opponents.

*Weinberg frequently uses the pen name ‘Parogar’ or ‘Paro’. He has been banned from Wattpad and Goodreads for his toxic behaviour.

A couple more links about this creep:

https://disqus.com/by/kevinweinberg/

https://darkwriter67.wordpress.com/tag/kevin-weinberg/

http://www.amazon.com/forum/top%20reviewers/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2Z5LRXMSUDQH2&cdMsgID=Mx2U2H2B9EP75GU&cdMsgNo=7917&cdPage=317&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=TxCFFAMA0L2YKU#Mx2U2H2B9EP75GU

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Poor poor Miss Lanyon

Oh what it is to be a best selling author who made a teeny, tiny admission of not being the gay man she made everyone think she was, and being criticised by a handful of people who didn’t appreciate the appropriation or dishonesty. Even though she’s being swamped by sympathy and her sales have gone up, she thinks critics not only want her to be bankrupt (not anywhere I’ve read) and banished (ditto), they want her to ::gasp:: admit she’s actually queer (again, nowhere I’ve read.) Or something. It’s a bit hard to tell in all the whining about the slings and arrows on a sea of troubles.

A lot of assumptions. Because I am a happily married woman today…I must have always been so. I must have always been this person. Never kissed the wrong boy. Never kissed a girl at all. Never wondered, never worried, never feared, explored, tested, loved and lost…

I was in junior high the first time I was called “lesbo.” I was so naïve, so sheltered I didn’t even know what it meant–except that it was clearly the worst thing a girl could be.

How is this anyone’s business but my own? How is it some people feel they have the right to interrogate me about things my own husband has never felt the need to question?

First of all, no one cares if you’re bi (or straight). You can’t throw a rock in this genre without hitting a married bisexual woman. And really, I do not want to know your sexual inclinations or history at all. No one does. Secondly, it wasn’t that you weren’t queer that bothers people, but that you actively played the role of a gay man, and sorry, I don’t care how many girls you kissed in highschool, that still doesn’t make you a gay guy. Thirdly, ‘lesbo’ was (and maybe is for all I know) the go-to insult to hurl at any girl who was less than popular, less that perfectly beautiful, maybe a little fat or a bit studious. (Ask me how I know.) Your ‘oppression’ wasn’t unique on that score, pet.

Look, go on writing. Tell your damn stories. People love them. That would be enough for most authors. But what you expect, Diana, is perfect acceptance and appreciation from readers – you can’t cope with criticism of your books, and you can’t tolerate anyone have problems with your actions. Tough. This is the real world and we’re not automata to dance to your control.

For fuck’s sake, stop whining, take your (very minor) licks, and get on with your life. You’ve got away with being an absolute cow to people over the years, and still managed to be successful. Asking for more than that is just greedy.

And stop lying about what people are saying. You’re inventing hate out of whole cloth, just to play the victim. Go on the stage if you want to be the dying swan.

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Real gay men respond to “Me? A gay man? You know I was just joshin'” Lanyon

These are all in response to Josh Lanyon coming clean – or as she puts it so sickeningly, ‘coming out’ – as a straight woman.

I quoted Nathan Burgoine yesterday but he bears repeating:

Now, way back at the beginning, I said I agreed and didn’t agree with giving any thought to whether or not a male pseudonym belonged to a female author in the m/m or gay fiction world.

There’s pseudonym, and then there’s identity.

There are instances I know of where an author used a male pseudonym, or adopted the bio of a gay man, or even sent a man to an author appearance to take the place of that author. There was also a piece where an author claiming a gay male identity did a lengthy Q&A interview piece about why “he” chose not to use condoms in the age of HIV/AIDS.

In those instances a line is crossed. That’s claiming an identity. That’s not a brand, or making a distinction between different genres, or just not having an author photo and dodging pronouns.

When an author presents themselves as a member of a different culture, minority, or oppressed group, they’ve taken a voice that belongs to that oppressed or silenced group. They are now using a brand based on a projected falsity.

Put as kindly as possible, that’s problematic. It’s appropriation. It’s dismissive, and is like “playing” at being a culture without suffering any of the negative realities of belonging to that culture and history. It also adds a kind of authenticity to anything said outside the prose. If someone who has claimed this gay male identity posts a review of another book and speaks personally about how real or unreal the gay culture represented in the book being reviewed, there’s a weight given to those words. Weigh in on a debate about equality under that identity? You are speaking with a voice that – frankly – hasn’t been earned.

Now, the thing about queer culture that’s different from a lot of other cultures is that many of us can “pass,” and that there’s usually no inherited continuance. It’s not the same as race (though I’d also point out that intersections exist), but if I draw an imperfect parallel, were I to craft a pseudonym of, say, a black man, and used that voice online – even if I thought I was saying good things and fighting the right causes and reviewing books positively – I do not have the right – because I do not have the life experience to claim the voice of a black man. I really don’t think anyone would argue with me about that, and yet when this situation arises with women adopting gay male personas as writers – and then blogging, reviewing, and otherwise using that voice – I don’t see much of a difference.

Marshall Thornton

As I’m launching my new book this week, Josh Lanyon finally came out as a woman. This has been a longtime rumor, which was confirmed for me more than a year ago by someone I trusted to actually know. Though, to be honest, I’m not sure I ever truly believed she was a man. In the broadest sense, Josh Lanyon is a brand just as Marshall Thornton is a brand and JT Moss is a brand. And I don’t have a problem with that and don’t think anyone else should either.

On the other hand, a great deal of this business is very personal and when you pose as a different gender both publicly and privately then you are skating dangerously close to catfishing. There have been instances where female writers have deliberately catfished gay male writers in order to pump them on how they “really” feel about straight women writing gay fiction. To my knowledge this is not something Josh ever did, and I’m not suggesting that.

However, everything Josh has said about straight women writing about gay men does now needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I’ve seen several comments about instances where she used her authority as a “gay man” to tell people how they should be writing about gay men, in fact I’d say she does that a lot in her book, Man, Oh Man: Writing M/M Fiction for Cash & Kinks.

In a 2010 article at by Dick Smart at Lambda Literary Josh is quoted as saying “There’s a great deal to appeal to gay male readers in M/M fiction.” That statement has weight coming from a gay male writer, from a gay man it means “hey you should try these books, I like them, you might too.” From a straight female writer, even though it may be a sincerely held opinion, the subtext becomes “buy my books.”

Brad Vance

People have said, well, “Josh” never used a male pronoun to describe “Josh.” But. The author’s reviews are full of quotes like this one, pulled from “Josh’s” how to book on writing M/M romance:

“I discovered him in March and by the end of May I had whipped through his complete oeuvre. Whew, this guy can write. When I discovered he had written a how-to, I couldn’t wait to get my hands on it.”

Silence = assent. Every customer who reviews “Josh’s” books uses the male pronoun. And to use a male name when…writing a how to book on M/M romance…is to set yourself up as the male voice of authority on writing about men. There’s a presumption, and a promise. “I am a man” is the promise that silence in the face of the male pronoun delivers.

Now, there are two things that upset me about this. Number one, which is the least upsetting. There are only a handful of actual men writing in this genre – maybe less, as we found out the other day. I’m one of them. I’ve “verified my identity,” in Facebook speak, by doing podcasts and videos and outing myself under my legal name.

And not only are there are very few gay men who write these books, but very few who read them, often because they ARE looking for reality, verisimilitude, they are looking for their own lives in fiction in which they are the stars. They come in to this virtual bookstore and say, “I am a gay guy and I want to read a book by a gay guy.”

This is one of the recent reviews for my book, Given the Circumstances, from a gay guy:

“I thought there was something different about this book! I don’t usually pay much attention to authors’ names (wrong, I know!) Normally when reading M/M romances I skip right through the sex parts. This time, though, I found myself actually reading and enjoying them. When I looked again at the author I realised why. For once, man on man sex scenes written by a man (who surely knows what it’s like!)”

“Josh’s” name could lure a gay man into buying a book that promised that authentic voice. Or that could lure a potential writer into thinking that this man had the first hand experience to author a guide to writing an M/M book.

Sean Kennedy

1. It’s not about ‘pen names’.
2. It’s about pretending to be a queer identity as a measure of ‘authenticity’ to sell books.
3. It is not misogynistic to question someone doing that if that person happens to be female.
4. Anybody can write this genre. ANYBODY. Nobody owns it.
5. Refer back to point 2.

 

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Just wait one fucking minute

I did not “out” Josh Lanyon as a woman. Josh Lanyon/Diana Killian announced it herself. I found out days after it happened (I was just about the last person to know – even my friends knew but didn’t tell me.) It confirmed what I was already sure of, but I didn’t know any of the dirty details (and certainly didn’t see or know about any of the ‘breadcrumbs’ she claims to have laid.) All those in the know kept the secret very well, as Lanyon/Killian knows perfectly well.

And Cat Grant? You are a lying, evil cunt. How dare you involve me in this just because of your grudgy nasty nature.

Lanyon/Killian, whatever and whoever you are? You made this bed, you lie in it. Keep me the hell out of your shit.

ETA:

I said as much as this post does, back in 2008, and was trashed for it. Now a gay man is saying it, and we know what’s  been going on, maybe this time people will listen:

Now, way back at the beginning, I said I agreed and didn’t agree with giving any thought to whether or not a male pseudonym belonged to a female author in the m/m or gay fiction world.

There’s pseudonym, and then there’s identity.

There are instances I know of where an author used a male pseudonym, or adopted the bio of a gay man, or even sent a man to an author appearance to take the place of that author. There was also a piece where an author claiming a gay male identity did a lengthy Q&A interview piece about why “he” chose not to use condoms in the age of HIV/AIDS.

In those instances a line is crossed. That’s claiming an identity. That’s not a brand, or making a distinction between different genres, or just not having an author photo and dodging pronouns.

When an author presents themselves as a member of a different culture, minority, or oppressed group, they’ve taken a voice that belongs to that oppressed or silenced group. They are now using a brand based on a projected falsity.

Put as kindly as possible, that’s problematic. It’s appropriation. It’s dismissive, and is like “playing” at being a culture without suffering any of the negative realities of belonging to that culture and history. It also adds a kind of authenticity to anything said outside the prose. If someone who has claimed this gay male identity posts a review of another book and speaks personally about how real or unreal the gay culture represented in the book being reviewed, there’s a weight given to those words. Weigh in on a debate about equality under that identity? You are speaking with a voice that – frankly – hasn’t been earned.

 

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Today started badly

But then this happened

Suck on that, Miss Hate, and your crew of shitwit apologists.

And I hope Deirdre Pewty Moen is weeping onto her creepy, fascist husband’s shoulder and getting him all snot-covered.

YAY FOR LAURA MIXON!!!!

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Breakdown on the Road to Damascus

So I reported yesterday that K Tempest Bradford had had a remarkable – and sudden – epiphany regarding RequiresHate.

Now Martin Wisse seems to have realised something important too!

Lou Antonelli is the perfect example of why you should be wary about accepting apologies from serial abusers. Because doing so enables them in their abuse. [emphasis mine]

Wow! This is the man who has been repeatedly dismissive of the extent of Miss Hate’s abuse:

Judged solely on her work, Sriduangkaew is certainly a worthy candidate for the Campbell (which is not a Hugo award), certainly more so than anybody who got there on a Puppy slate.

Whether or not her behaviour was bad enough to trump that (and whether everything she’s alleged to do was true) is up to you. I personally did think she was one of the people who deserved at least a nomination.

And

In general I’m wary of the idea that RH is fandom’s greatest monster and I do think her status as a woman of colour, no matter how privileged she is in her own country, has helped with the speed with which people were ready to put the boot in her once the BS = RH link was made.

And

Personally I think the parallels between RH’s hyperbole and say GamersGate inspired death threats are more imagined than real. There’s a difference between somebody getting angry enough to make clearly ridiculous threats and the sort of organised hatred of a GamersGate frex.

And so far as I know, who never retracted this response to Miss Hate’s ‘apologies’

I’m not one of the people who were attacked by Requires Hate or deceived by Benjanun Sriduangkaew — I doubt I’m on her radar — so it’s not up to me to say whether her apologies are good enough. But I hope they’re sincere and that this can be the start of healing the wounds these actions and those undertaken in defense or retaliation against her have created in science fiction fandom.

So now Martin gets it now, right? Serial abusers use apologies to cover for their abuse?

Sadly, no.

Not a problem unique to us of course, but made worse by the fannish phobia for social exclusion. People are willing to forgive a serial harasser like Antonelli because excluding him from fandom would be a worse crime. As long as you’re part of the incrowd, you can do a whole lot of damage before you’re finally chucked out. This is incidently the real reason why Antonelli is treated differently from Benjanun Sriduangkaew/Requires Hate: she was always an outsider. Race and gender play their inevitable roles in this as well of course, but at the heart of the difference still is the simple fact that Antonelli is part of fandom and Sriduangkaew …isn’t. [emphasis mine]

Miss Hate was part of fandom for ten years as Winterfox. She was instrumental in shaping – and destroying – some crucial fannish forums. She was only an outsider in her new, shiny, totally a newcomer persona as ‘Benjanun Sriduangkaew’. Once the connection with Winterfox/RequiresHate was made by Nick Mamatas, that’s when things went sour for her – because she was so not a newcomer or an outsider, but someone who’d been manipulating and abusing and recording people for a very long time, and was using that insider knowledge for her own benefit. She was insulting people under one pseud and cosying up to them under another.

So either Wisse is wilfully blind, or he’s just an idiot. I don’t know which, although I pointed out to him personally how very wrong his assessment of the evidence for Hate’s abuse was, and he ignored me.

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More on apologies and consequences

As most of you will know now, Lou Antonelli escaped being banned from this year’s world con by the skin of his teeth. And now the internet is raging at the World Con governing body, Sasquan, for the decision.

Not that my opinion matters – after all, I am eminently dismissable for ‘writing angry’  (and god forbid I be angry as a woman, no matter what my reasons) – but it seems to me that Sasquan should have said they were going to ban Antonelli, which was their original decision, acknowledged David Gerrold’s plea for mercy, but tell Mr Gerrold that Antonelli’s behaviour is not just a matter between the two men, but a threat to the safety of all the convention goers.

But they were handed a shit sandwich and told to chow down or be beaten up. They weren’t going to win whatever they did. I’m not privy to the full discussions and there’s apparently a lot not being made public – although what they are making public isn’t being very well expressed 🙁

K Tempest Bradford made a rather strange comment on a post by Jason Sandford, which supported her take on the Antonelli mess (one I vehemently disagreed with).

The point is that even people in this thread are making excuses for why Ellison and Antonelli should be let off the hook or let’s wait and see or oh it was so long ago, but BS/RH? No, that’s such a different story!

It’s not. It’s really not. And that isn’t me saying that we should treat BS the way we are treating the guys. Because she should not be let off the hook for her past actions when her present actions are hella problematic. It’s that the instinct to let these white men off smells strongly of racist, sexist bullshit. [emphasis mine]

The part in bold is literally the first acknowledgement by Bradford that her protegé is still actively evil. Bradford was one of the people arguing that “it was so long ago” was appropriate for the apparently eternally nineteen-year-old Miss Hate, right up until she made this comment on Sandford’s blog.

As letting Antonelli off the hook, this is simply bullshit. No one in the comments on that post is saying “Antonelli should be let off the hook or let’s wait and see or oh it was so long ago”. The only defenders of Antonelli I’ve heard about at all have been his Sad/Rabid Puppy fellow travellers. Even at the very start of this, when all we knew about Antonelli is what he’d done to Gerrold, his apology, and Gerrold’s acceptance, there were easily half of those commenting condemning him outright and saying the apology was self-serving. The others thought Gerrold had been generous and on the face of it, the apology matched the offence. The more information we have had about Antonelli’s behaviour, has meant those praising him for his apology have changed their minds, and more people have joined in to say the apologies are nothing but an abuser’s typical tactic.

No one is letting Antonelli off the hook, not even Sasquan. Whether he’s facing the full consequence of his behaviour is another matter. But the idea that he is being given a free pass is nonsense – and again Bradford knows this. She also knows the only reason Antonelli’s apology was given any consideration by serious people was because the only known (at the time) victim of his actions, accepted it.

This is not the case with Miss Hate. Her apologies were not personally addressed to her victims, and since she has continued to abuse, harass, and defame those people, despite their fervent wish that she leave them alone, the question of whether they accepted her apology, let alone whether you can consider they actually received one, is irrelevant.

Yes, there is undoubtedly a sexist bias in who gets an easier ride, and male abusers are much more common in SFF than female ones. It’s also true that important male abusers have got away with a lot of horrible shit, and still do. But they are being called out, they have been called out, and the attitude towards abusers is changing fast. Which is why Antonelli is being rightly excoriated. Which is why we aren’t prepared to accept Harlan Ellison’s behaviour at cons any more. And why Miss Hate’s past and current behaviour is being examined and criticised.

We can’t adopt a ‘Dear Muslima‘ approach to abusers – that because this or that foul person got away with (allegedly) worse in the past, we can’t deal with this or that foul person in the present until those past foul people are dealt with. Requires Hates/Benjanun Sriduangkaew/Winterfox did real, serious, life changing harm to people, and she is still behaving in the same abusive manner – as Bradford has now acknowledged. She’s not some minor irritant being picked on because she’s not white. Come on, let’s accept that queer Thai women can be just as appalling and dangerous. as old straight white men. Actions have consequences, and she can twist and spin as much as she likes, but those consequences are real.

Ironically, the reason Miss Hate was protected and excused for so long was because she isn’t a straight white man. Winterfox was rampaging around fandom for ten years using her sexuality and racial identity as a shield/weapon against critics – and it worked, just as Bradford seems to argue it should. But now the accumulated rage and pain and grudges of that ten years of getting away with it is coming back to bite her – and she doesn’t like it. Well, tough.

And Antonelli is finding out that his straight white privilege is not going to protect him as much as he obviously thought it would. He’s lost one publishing deal, and he’ll lose others. He won’t be invited to panels, or reputable anthologies This extensive abusive tantrum throwing will come up over and over when his name is mentioned, just as Harlan Ellison’s name is now yoked in many people’s minds with what he did to Connie Willis.

Bradford is incensed that the response to Antonelli wasn’t fast enough or hard enough, compared to what happened to Miss Hate. But it didn’t take ten years to expose Antonelli – it didn’t even take ten days. Writing up an exposé on Antonelli took Natalie Luhrs approximately 24 hours, apparently. Digging up all the twisting, hidden stuff about Miss Hate – the evidence for which she’s been deleting, and much of which took place under a multitude of pseudonyms – took a team of dozens over a month, and they still didn’t get to the bottom of it.

So Bradford’s complaint is nonsense. It was nonsense when I wrote about it a couple of days ago, and her revised whinge is still nonsense.

And all it’s done is make more people aware of Miss Hate, and got them to investigate the full details. So good job there, Tempest. I’m sure your protegé will be so pleased with you.

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Dishonesty in the service of the oligarchy

So this happened.

“Hugo-nominated” Lou Antonelli sent a letter to Spokane police about the ‘dangerous’ Hugos Guest of Honor, David Gerrold. One of his publishers then dropped him. He posted her (dishonestly edited) email to his Facebook, and then the publisher got death and rape threatsAntonelli’s disingenuous call for his supporters to knock it off, brought zero comments on his request. David Gerrold has been rather  kinder to this arsehole than he deserves, accepting his apology

Note – this all happened over this last weekend. Mere days. Antonelli has done something fairly shitty before along similar lines, though. The spread of victims this time was limited to two (white) people, one male, one female.

So why is K Tempest Bradford making a dishonest and pretty immoral correlation between Antonelli and her favourite abuser of colour, RequiresHate?

I’m not addressing David Gerrold here, who did indeed accept the apology and move on. Which, in my opinion, was the right thing for *him* to do. As the person under attack, he should not continue to engage with the guy attacking him.

The rest of y’all have no goddamned excuse for this.

Where are the lengthy posts about how no one is ever going to work with Antonelli again? Where is the in-depth linkspam chronicling every single shady-ass thing he’s ever done? Where are the posts and status updates and tweets dissecting his apology to prove its insincerity and thus giving us all a reason to hound him on every social network, every blog, every comments section? Where are the people saying “But he put someone’s life in danger and that is unforgivable forever” even if the probability of said danger is a small one?

I mean, isn’t that how we deal with people who make us all feel unsafe?

In fact pushback against Antonelli was pretty swift and harsh, and any mitigation or benefit of the doubt he gained from his apology to David Gerrold has been torn away by the revelation of his behaviour towards Carrie Cuinn. Commenters on File770 were divided between “accept his apology and move on” and “his apology doesn’t make him a safe person to be around” – which is pretty much the way Miss Hate’s apologies were received.

The crucial differences are – and Tempest fucking knows these:

  • Antonelli does not carry out secret campaigns of abuse. He does everything, for good or ill, under his own name (which is now mud).
  • He hasn’t been carrying out harassment of people, white/POC, male and female, straight and gay, cis and trans for over ten years
  • he apologised for what he actually did, in full – unlike Miss Hate who sort of vaguely alluded to bad behaviour, without acknowledging the full scope of what she did or directly apologising to her actual victims
  • his victims don’t include people of colour, but include one of Hate’s much loathed white women (that should make him a hero, according to Bradford and Hate)
  • People don’t feel constrained from criticising Antonelli on account of his oh so persecuted race and sexuality – which is still the case with Hate (despite the fact she is massively class privileged and not racially disprivileged in her own country.)

The similarities are Antonelli is an abusive bullying shitlord, his apologies mean nothing since he keeps repeating his offences, and his defenders are disgusting.

Is this really a comparison Bradford and others want us to make? Really?

And I hope it won’t be long before Carrie Cuinn realises she’s being used by Miss Hate to prop up Hate’s dishonest conflation of the two situation.

Antonelli is a worthless creep.  That doesn’t mean Miss Hate isn’t one too.

Bradford is trying to make a name for herself on the back of Requires Hate’s victims – people whom Hate is still harassing and abusing. That makes K Tempest Bradford an abuser too.

ETA: Antonelli was ‘impressive’ even in 2012

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